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Re: Best Practice XHTML / CSS - layout questions
Very cool. Among the many other benefits, moving the HTML to XHTML
strict + css would also allow the navigation bar to appear last in the
source, which would be beneficial for both screen readers and search
engines.
As long as the design degrades gracefully for people with six year old
browsers such as Netscape 4, which is not that hard to do, I agree that
this is the directon to go.
Your solution with floats seems to work nicely - I'd go that way rather
than use absolute positioning. Are there other specific issues you're
wrestling with?
cheers,
Joe
On Mon, 26 Jan 2004 09:45:06 +0000, "Mike Tonks" <mike-AT-bettercode.com>
said:
>
> I have received some local feedback about the new dadaIMC site for
> bristol indymedia.
>
> It is suggested we should use valid XHTML and css, which gives much
> greater control over the layout etc, and is much better for
> accessibility.
>
> I have made a start on this although my template is not yet complete, I
> have asked for feedback and assistance / advice from the local list and
> I invite input from this list or from anyone around the world that may
> be able to help - please forward on this request.
>
> My sample page is currently here:
>
> bristoldev.ath.cx/template/xhtml_template.html
>
>
> Note that my css file currently uses float to position the columns, but
> there is also the absolute positioning method, as seen at
> www.indymedia.org.uk
>
>
> I am suggesting that we find a best practice XHTML file and a number of
> alternative style sheets, with different arrangements of the columns,
> for example. This could then be merged with the latest dada cvs
> snapshot an included in the next release, so long a spud agrees to it :)
>
> In general, all the layout is removed from the html [php] code.
>
> So bye, bye, bye to
>
> <table cellspacing=... >
> <tr>
> <td>.....
>
>
> and welcome <div id="feature">...
>
> I don't know how many table tags I have deleted so far, bit it is a lot!
>
> I have found the wc3 validator service to be extremely usefull.
>
> validator.w3.org/check
>
> Cheers,
>
> Mike
>
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strict + css would also allow the navigation bar to appear last in the
source, which would be beneficial for both screen readers and search
engines.
As long as the design degrades gracefully for people with six year old
browsers such as Netscape 4, which is not that hard to do, I agree that
this is the directon to go.
Your solution with floats seems to work nicely - I'd go that way rather
than use absolute positioning. Are there other specific issues you're
wrestling with?
cheers,
Joe
On Mon, 26 Jan 2004 09:45:06 +0000, "Mike Tonks" <mike-AT-bettercode.com>
said:
>
> I have received some local feedback about the new dadaIMC site for
> bristol indymedia.
>
> It is suggested we should use valid XHTML and css, which gives much
> greater control over the layout etc, and is much better for
> accessibility.
>
> I have made a start on this although my template is not yet complete, I
> have asked for feedback and assistance / advice from the local list and
> I invite input from this list or from anyone around the world that may
> be able to help - please forward on this request.
>
> My sample page is currently here:
>
> bristoldev.ath.cx/template/xhtml_template.html
>
>
> Note that my css file currently uses float to position the columns, but
> there is also the absolute positioning method, as seen at
> www.indymedia.org.uk
>
>
> I am suggesting that we find a best practice XHTML file and a number of
> alternative style sheets, with different arrangements of the columns,
> for example. This could then be merged with the latest dada cvs
> snapshot an included in the next release, so long a spud agrees to it :)
>
> In general, all the layout is removed from the html [php] code.
>
> So bye, bye, bye to
>
> <table cellspacing=... >
> <tr>
> <td>.....
>
>
> and welcome <div id="feature">...
>
> I don't know how many table tags I have deleted so far, bit it is a lot!
>
> I have found the wc3 validator service to be extremely usefull.
>
> validator.w3.org/check
>
> Cheers,
>
> Mike
>
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Best Practice XHTML / CSS - layout questions / Mike Tonks / 26 Jan 2004
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Re: Best Practice XHTML / CSS - layout questions / Thomas Spellman <thosgroups-AT-thosmos.com> / 27 Jan 2004
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